Saturday, February 02, 2013

Comments to Chari's New Year Message (2013)

Comments to exerpts from Chari's New Year's Speech (2013):
http://www.sahajmarg.org/literature/online/speeches/chennai-01012013


Comments by 4d-don are in "red italics" 



The Effects of Prejudice and Self-Judgement on our Spiritual Life
January 1, 2013, Chennai, India


Dear Brothers and Sisters,

We have been wishing everybody – saying, “Happy New Year.” That is a convention which has been going on for years. Of course we want a happy new year. Happiness has been the goal of human beings without understanding what happiness really means. Many years ago, I saw a movie called The Sound of Music, and a young lady in that movie tells us what makes her happy – so many things. “These are some of my favourite things” – that wonderful song – which clearly indicates that most human beings believe that their happiness is tied to external objects. “If I get a new dress I will be happy,” “If I get a job I will be happy,” and so on and so forth.

Chari watches and believes a lot of "fiction" and fantasy movies (Dan Brown, Isaac Asimov, etc...) and now, "the Sound of Music".   He even buys them (with donated money ... thus Sahaj Marg is supporting the pleasure-addicting Hollywood "fiction" industry, and he even puts them in the CREST libraries.  He saw this Hollywood movie and another one, "Demons and Angels" (and Da Vinci Code)  written by fiction (i.e. not REALITY)  writer Dan Brown (see below) ... Did he watch the film to be "happy" or to "evolve"?  Is that evolution brought about by a "fantasy" from Guru Dan Brown??  I guess if the movie is "beautiful" (emotional??)  and if Chari believes it to be REAL,  then it must be TRUE!!  OK!!   Another truth from the "Brighter World" ... or the Central Region!!  There's a new one (sucker) born every minute!! 

PS...  Dan Brown is a FICTION writer!!!  FICTION is "not REAL!!  What's next: The Bible according to "Hollywood"??   

I said that we don’t understand what we are really saying because happiness is not the real goal of human life. The goal of human life is evolution – evolution through this life into a higher life, always. That is law, progress.  How SPIRITUALIST and MATERIALIST! .... The goal of life or "the LAW" is not progress.  Nature does not care about the progress of  MAN!!  Progress does not mean "better" or "improvement".  Is SPIRITUALITY not about BEING ?... not "becoming"? ... not DOING!!    If you are in school you go up level by level, level by level; you graduate; you go to college. You move up as your knowledge improves, your understanding improves, until you finally evolve out of the educational life, where most people think their education ends.  (Education is about KNOWLEDGE, and it is cumulative.  Some spiritualists even believe and teach that Spirituality like "knowledge" ENDS, and that there is a goal to reach, a diploma to receive at "THE END"... but there is no END !!)   Fortunately, for the few individuals who continue to educate themselves in a very real sense through the experiences that they garner in life, education is then understood to be a continuous process, ending only with our transition into the next life.  (There is NO END,  and psst ...  don't tell anyone but there's "no beginning" either !!)

So we must all strive towards an understanding, true understanding, of what evolution means.  (as you strive by watching movies??  Fiction??  Pleasure in the name of duty (evolution)... the hypocrisy!! )  We can evolve only when we use this life, what Babuji calls ‘incarnation’, this incarnation, as a rightful gift (Life is not a "rightful gift", later Chari says: "we deserve"... he makes it up as he goes along... all inventions, all  a MYTH!!) granted to us by our past evolution, where we have evolved up to the stage where we deserve a human life for our further evolution. This human life is not to be wasted in futile efforts like pleasure-seeking, happiness pursuit, even health pursuit, because this incarnation comes as a programmed event in our evolutionary life through which we have necessarily to pass. We have no choice.  (Now we are "programmed"?  But Chari can waste his time watching  a Hollywood fiction, a pleasure-giving movie by the "Great Satan" of Hollywood (The Entertainment Industry),  which attacks yet another religion (Vatican).   And then, he moralizes at others?? )

The messages that we receive every day from Babuji Maharaj emphasise that we have no choice. We have to go through it, suffering whatever happens to us, even to the extent of understanding that happiness is a suffering.  (Yes Chari will now want to watch other "fiction" movies, such as "Isaac Asimov's FOUNDATION series)  Because today’s happiness brings us sorrow tomorrow. Today’s sorrow brings us happiness tomorrow. Everything changes into its [opposite] as we move through this incarnation. Nothing is fixed. What is fixed is the real experience of life that we treasure in our heart – love.  (Some, specially Indian Gurus of the NEW RELIGIONS,  hide materialism and spiritualism behind a RELIGIOUS facade:  I heard this quote on the international news by a group protecting victims of "honour killing" in India,  so it must be TRUE if we use Chari's standards:  "India has become a nation of "love killers".)

Even this morning I received a message from my beloved (anonymous French Lady Medium) Master, where he gives advice against prejudice, which means prejudging, which we have no right to do. No human being has a right to judge another human being. Even in the English language it is said, “Judge not that ye be not judged.”  ( Chari is making it up as he goes along.  SPIRITUALISTS  LIE and invent "facts" as messages from the "spirit of the dead"!!  That quotation above is from the Judaeo-Christian Bible, not from the "English language" ...  It (the Bible)  was "translated" to English  from Aramaic, Greek (Septuagint) and Latin (Vulgate).  

Don't judge others Chari!! Not Bill Gates, not the Pope, and not homosexuals!!  Stop moralizing at others.  Stop pointing the finger at others ...  you simply reveal yourself!! )   There is this great warning to us: If you judge, you will be judged. Of course we understand the common meaning that if I judge you, you will judge me or God will judge me. But I have pondered over this through the years and I have come to the conclusion that when I judge myself, I have condemned myself to my own judgement. This is what makes us feel guilty in a higher sense, sinful, which brings us desperation, sorrow, the futility of what we think to be a wasted life. All this is a result of our own self-judgement.  (But you claim that Sahaj Marg has "no philosophy"... then you think with what, your navel or your BRAIN??)   Let others also think freely and evolve according to Nature's plan, not yours.   And how egotistical to insist they  Obey YOU!!  Your Sahaj Marg(tm) creates Zombies, clones, not HUMANS!!  You destroy families.   It's not what Babuji wanted: a herd of obedient "sheep")

I would suggest that judging others is a very common thing but judging your own self, which we do quite unconsciously… because when I am afraid of something, when I am afraid of my examination, I am judging myself and my preparedness to face that examination. I know that I have not prepared myself, which is, I am judging myself. Then if my result comes out against me after the exams are over, I should not feel disappointed because I have known already in my own judgement, conscious or unconscious, that I have not prepared myself for what I have to do. Therefore, I must accept failure with the cheerfulness and joy with which I would have accepted success. When we are afraid of an interview, we know we are not ready.  

(And why did you not accept that the Board of Directors of the SRCM of Babuji in 1982, did not want you to be the PRESIDENT of SRCM?  They accepted the Nomination Letter of Umesh, signed by Babuji. Umesh is Babuji's son and successor of SRCM (Shahjahanpur-1945).  Instead you re-registered the society as SRCM in San Luis Obispo, California, in 1997).  Are you afraid of failure??  And now you hide the money received as Charity, including the real estate in a Foundation (SMSF) ... making the SRCM a "shell" society.    

Why don't you accept YOUR failure with "CHEERFULNESS"??)

So, fear of external things is something else, but the fear that we feel against events – whatever we have to do (we have to do), is nothing but prejudging my own self. People don’t understand that prejudice can be against one’s own self. Prejudice is not only against others, prejudging others (“He is a fool,” “She is an ass,” and so on and so forth), but we are all the time judging ourselves. Therefore, we are afraid – of events, of situations, of possibilities. So prejudice eventually turns out to be the fear of oneself. “I am never prepared.” “I am not ready.” “How will I face God?”
My son and I were discussing a certain Christian saint who wants to be scourged, who wants to be beaten, who wants to be punished. In Christianity, this is a common feature – lashing yourself, scourging yourself. We saw it in one of those two movies, beautiful movies – Demons and Angels – which is judging yourself. God does not judge.  (And what about your version of Sahaj Marg(tm)!! You are moralizing!! and using a FANTASY, in attempting to prove your bad conclusion ... There are some Christians who mortify themselves as there are some from other religions who see the "flesh" as something to control and to not be controlled by.  Many Indians practice such rituals and probably some you consider your masters ...  You point at others again!!  I (and your three other fingers)  POINT back at YOU!! )

To come back to Master’s (invented by a MEDIUM) message of this morning, Babuji Maharaj says human life is a frail thing. It is full of opportunities, which are missed, which are misused – two things. We miss opportunities, we misuse opportunities, thereby ruining the possibility of our evolution, condemning ourselves in a sense to go back to the same class until we do pass out of it, which we call rebirth, reincarnation.

Babuji Maharaj goes on to say, “I am not moralising.” (But Chari is moralizing)  You see what he says? Is it a sign of humility? Is it a sign of divinity? (humility is not divinity... they are not the same)  The Divine does not judge. (PROVE IT) You have been given an opportunity. In the way you handle it, you judge yourself. When you are passed you have passed yourself. That is why you say, “I have passed.” You don’t say, “The examiners have passed me.” “I have passed.” ( Chari has not passed... He is attached to MATERIAL, POWER and FANTASY)

So, everything that you say and do is subject to the law of judgement by the self, of the self. There is no external judge, not even God judges. Master is very clear: “I do not moralise.”
But Chari "moralises".  (See here two examples of Chari's "prejudices": homosexuality, and Bill Gates and the Pope

 Unfortunately, in our society, even our so-called advanced Sahaj Marg society, it is full of prejudices; it is full of lost opportunities; it is full of wasted opportunities – much to the sorrow of the Masters. You know they have emotion.  (Is that why you hide the MATERIAL of your SRCM (California-1997) in a Foundation (SMSF) controlled by businessmen, like YOU?  You are afraid that the "abhyasis" will get access to YOUR society??   EMOTIONS??)   It is like a father who has many children, who gives them every opportunity that he can possibly give and he sees them running wild: one man running wild, one girl running wild, one son studying and coming out very beautifully. He may be happy about the one son who has matured in his spiritual self to avoid wasting opportunities and to use them with the good sense to promote his evolution through this incarnation. He is sorry for the others.  A gardener does not want one rose in his garden. He wants every bush to flower – flowers all over the place.  (Give the "flowers" (the money and power you covet so much) of SRCM (California-1997) to everyone so they can all "flower"... No flower simply OBEYS !!  They also have "pleasure" and "decide" for themselves.   You are addicted to "control"!!  You will lose it also!!  )

So Master says in his (invented)  message: I wish to see you all developing in this life in such a way that this incarnation is fruitful, fulfils its purpose, shows that you have used it well so that you are in the next stage of life, whatever it may be.

So brothers and sisters, it is unfortunate that we remain, shall I say, wasteful, neglectful human beings  (is Chari "judging" ??  moralizing??)  instead of seizing every opportunity. There is no opportunity which is against us. An opportunity is, by a spiritual definition, (lol lol  that is funny)  something which will promote our evolution, even if you think it is against you. Even failure is an opportunity, because as they say in the English language, “Failure is the stepping-stone to success,” provided we use failure properly. We use that failure to help me to resolve that I shall do better; that therefore I shall shut my eyes and ears to the temptations of life, to the temwptations of friendship, to the temptations of events which we think will titillate us and make us happy. My Master never talked of friendship. He said the only friend we have is the Master, because under all circumstances he is working towards our evolution – under all circumstances.  He does not judge. As Babuji Maharaj said, “I do not moralise.”  (YOU DO, Chari!!  Chari must not be a "master" as he is no friend and he judges and moralizes ... over and over again!!  And still he does not see it!!  )

It makes me feel very sad when people point to this person or that person and say, “I don’t want another like him.” It shows very poor judgement of human life. If I am a human being and I have the possibility of evolving out of this life, so has the other person. He may be a criminal, he may be a leper, he may be anything. When Jesus Christ kissed the lepers, did it show prejudice? (Then you should all become "Christians" as Chari does not even accept the "homosexuals" and thinks that Bill Gates and the Pope is "morally degraded"... Most Abhyasis think that we are not even "human beings", unless we are in Sahaj Marg(tm) ... ) (see "Sahaj Marg, An Unmeasure-able Blindness" on this blog)   He was great precisely because he did not differentiate. No good man, no bad man – human being. As a human being he is my brother, under all circumstances; whatever be his history, past and present. If we do not understand this and stand by it and live by it, believe me, we are condemning ourselves to a blighted future, not because God judges us but because we have committed ourselves to that punishment – self-inflicted punishment, by our thoughts, by our words, by our actions.  (By Chari's thoughts, words, etc... so as to gather "numbers" (people, money, power)...)

Now how do we avoid all this? That is why I have given the slogan. Babuji Maharaj said, “Love Him (IT)  who (THAT)  loves all.” That is very easy. We all claim to love Babuji Maharaj. Babuji Maharaj once asked a very potent question. When somebody said, “I love God,” he asked, “Does He (IT) love you?” You know that old beautiful novel where that fellow who is driving a cart, he writes on the cart that he loves her or something like that – David Copperfield. But it is not enough my loving. I must be loved. And I cannot be loved unless I love continuously, effortlessly, endlessly, which means I don’t love persons, peoples, events – I love. And that love goes around the universe and comes back to me and I feel loved(Chari thinks and teaches, on the Sahaj Marg(tm) site for the kids, that God is MALE and Nature is FEMALE ... This is not THE Truth ... it is just plain WRONG!!)

So everybody (YOU, Chari) must remember this, from the lowest to the highest. Even a so-called master must remember this, because if he slips a little, he slips. When you are at a height of hundred feet and you hold on to something, if you just let go of it, you fall. Isn’t it? That wonderful, beautiful game that we have, Snakes and Ladders, shows the biggest danger is at ninety-nine. The biggest danger is not in the beginning of life; it is in the end of life. Therefore Babuji Maharaj said that in a spiritual pursuit, in a spiritual way, there can be no satisfaction, because if you are satisfied and sit back, your progress is stopped.  (Get ready for the "snakes", Chari!! Or get rid of the "MATERIAL" willingly!!  NOW! )

So, you see, we are not to be satisfied. You may be satisfied with the ice cream (the fiction movies, the money, the power, the oppulence, etc.. etc...)  that you are eating or your train journey, but never satisfied inside with your spiritual voyage, which must under all circumstances be pushed by longing for more and more. Not avarice for more and more, longing for more and more. Like an engine is pushed by steam pressure, or like your car is moving by your foot on the accelerator, there must be an accelerator in my heart, which is the pressure of love which carries me forward. The pressure of prejudices, hatred – these are my foot on the brake, and my car stops. (You preach for yourself and you point at the rest of your brothers and sisters, we the HUMANS who are not attached to the material and power as much as you are ...  and we don't believe in FICTION movies... we don't believe in "Hollywood" as the "giver of truth".

Sisters and brothers, you have to take this very seriously, because even though we have been receiving a message a day from my Master (Chari's MEDIUM, a French Lady who is anonymous) ever since I fell ill, I do not know how many of you read it. Some of you, I am sure, say, “He says the same thing every day.”  It's like a man who reads history and says, “What is this Napoleon? What is this Hitler? What is this Alexander? Same story. He was born, he fought, he conquered, he died – history.” And if you are satisfied with that understanding of history, you have not learnt the lessons of history.  (All inventions of SPIRITUALISTS who must "become" and who must have a "GOAL" ...  simply BE SPIRITUAL)

So, every page you turn, every line you read, you must read carefully; do not skip through the book, because you will miss. What do you miss? You miss whatever there may be which can help you in your evolution.  (Somewhere along the line, you must have skipped a page or two... You are still hiding the SRCM material in a foundation managed by pharmaceutical, blue-jeans, and hotel and restaurant developers, IT services, etc... all businessmen because you are afraid that Babuji's family will come and take it all away ... along with your legacy: your false and un-true "HISTORY") Similarly, in life we don’t skip over the events. I know people who go to the seaside [and say], “Same water, same breeze”, or who go to the Grand Canyon and say, “Same story: a river, a gorge.” They watch a lovely sunset, but for them it's not a lovely sunset. “The same old sun setting always in the west. What is so wonderful about it?”

We must have eyes like those of a child, innocent, looking at everything every time with a new understanding, with a new vision, adoring the Creator who is able to play so many scenarios with His sunsets and with His sunrises, each different from the other. It is a very good truism to say that no two leaves are alike among all the billions of leaves in this world. Similarly, no two humans are alike. So how can you judge?  (How can YOU??) If they are all alike, you can judge. When there is no alikeness, you lack knowledge to judge, you lack understanding to judge. Every baby is different, every finger is different. Isn’t it?  (If we are all "unique" what makes you (or Babuji)  "SPECIAL"?  Don't you understand about ONE and ALL!!  The freedom which you refuse to WOMEN (or to homosexuals)   to be Masters, shows that you are "prejudiced" !!   Do you only allow cheaters and thieves to be Masters ??  NO SEX we're Spiritual??  What about the Killer of one's innocent mother who blindly obeys his guru, and cuts off the head of his/her mother?  This, simply to "Obey" and "surrender"  to the orders of his rhetorically megalomaniacal GURU??  (see here)

The Western logic of codifying everything, classifying everything, is the big mistake into which we have also fallen here in the Orient. “Human beings are human beings.” “Women are women. They are all the same.” (They (women) are "unique" enough to be capable of  BEING  MASTERS, although you in SRCM do not allow Women to be Masters) It is a common statement by all men. “Women are women everywhere; so are men.” Not at all. Every human life is a unique human life, if you but seek to probe and understand what makes it unique – not to show differences, but to show the uniqueness of each and every human life.

If you (YOU) are not able to do this you must pray that you are bestowed this understanding, and then only you will pass through life seeing the uniqueness of everything, the beauty of everything, the transparency of everything. And then you (YOU) will stop judging yourself because you yourself are unique in every way. And therefore, there is no common law for abhyasis. There is no one judgement for all of them. Each one has his own unique judgement of himself or herself. Please try to understand that prejudice is ultimately prejudging your own self, which you use to (so-called) judge others, which is but a reflection of what you are, projected on others. (Do you get it now??)  Give the money and the properties you usurped so the "seasons of giving might be yours and not your inheriters". (Kahlil Gibran ... the Prophet)

So we are in this new year. I hope you will use Babuji’s (Chari's MEDIUM's and Chari, claiming to be Babuji and inventing his whispers...)  messages wisely. Read them again and again (brain-washing!! so you may then "Obey")   – his messages, repeat what Babuji says that these messages will last into the future, where they will be respected, where it will benefit. It is almost as if he says the present-day humans will not benefit from this, because they will not understand. Why? Because they will not read. Why? Because they think, “The same old Master, the same old message. Do this, do that.”  (If you want to read Babuji's messages, read them from Babuji, not from Whispers which comes from an anonymous French Lady Medium, who is serving Chari)

The sameness of things are betraying us.  (that is what is hidden from false Masters ... The ONE-ness of ALL is what some "gurus" can't see, so they create an "elite" of their friends who are the only one who can LEAD the masses who must Obey)   When we think everything is same or similar, we are leading ourselves into betraying ourselves. With love we can see how everything is different – even amoebas under the microscopes, even planets, even stars. There are no two stars which are alike. They may be alike in the sense of the Western knowledge, astronomy, that they have mass, they have colour, they have gas, et cetera, et cetera. It is like a chemist who has gone through a chemistry course, and he is being interviewed, “What is the difference between hydrogen and oxygen?” If he says, “No difference; both are gases,” he wouldn’t get the job. “What is the difference between vegetable oils and mineral oils?” “Nothing, because they are both oils.” (Wrong: one gas is explosive, and one is not.  Likewise, one oil is vegetable and one is mineral... they are not the same, but they appear to be "similar" ...  they only appear the same to those who want to see them "shallowly", in "general terms",  for reasons of their own, serving their own current prejudices and pleasures !!  )

So the sameness betrays us into a lack of understanding, the lack of ability to understand, and shows in us a lack of desire to understand. That again is prejudice.  (The differences betrays you, and you think that your "elite" will confirm you prejudices (towards homosexuals, etc...) and they will for a while and then, they will change and become like us... ONE!!  A family made of ALL!! Even YOU!! )

So on this happy occasion of the New Year, I pray for you all. Please read Babuji’s (The anonymous Spiritualist's French Lady Medium's and Chari's )  messages carefully, where again and again there is insistence in, what I say is, obedience. If you obey, you don’t need anything else. Obedience of a human nature is something in which you have surrendered the need to understand, surrendered to everything, to the higher power (Chari? Light? which is also matter, and not ONE and ALL) . Therefore, it (HE?) now acts through me, and it is always a step in the right direction leading to my evolution.   

The Babuji who was once living until 1982, wanted you to understand and to be like LIONS,  not like "some" sheep who simply OBEY and follow the leader, even if the leader is a materialist, spiritualist, businessman, who would lead his followers "over the cliff" of materiality and spiritualism!!

So thank you and Happy New Year again.

Imagine there's no RELIGION!!   Do Not OBEY!! 

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26 comments:

Anonymous said...

Babuji said " attach yourself with the Divine & the Divine will come nearer to you ".
MVVRao

4d-Don said...

Hi MVV Rao...

4d-Don said:


"Divinity" is not a "person". All is more or less Conscious!

If there is a CREATIVE (a Process), a "First Cause", a ONE-ness or a UNITY, then IT (not "Who"... not a "person") IS Everything, IT IS Everywhere, and IT IS Everywhen ...

The beliefs and actions of humans does not make IT move either closer or farther to ANYTHING!!

Man does not MOVE "Divinity" ... Man does not cause Divinity to MOVE!!


4d-Don


Anonymous said...

Yes brother,you are right right.How ever there is an exception to your view . It is deserving ness.Lalaji Maharaj has got this deserving ness which has caused the descendence of Babuji Maharaj in the human form.He (Babuji Maharaj) has no beginning and no end and is the MASTER to lead the entire humanity un to Himself through His Divine Will.
Affectionately,MVVRao

4d-Don said...

Hi MVVRao...

So as to not drift into idolatry, anything which has form and is "limited" in SPACE and TIME, such as carbon-based humans is not considered by this carbon-based form called "Don"(this time around), as ALL or as ONE, what you call the Divinity and some call by the "Gothic" (Germanic) word GOD ... But they (and we) are part of the ALL and as part of the ALL we are in REALITY all ONE, then they also are part of the ONE-ness of All ... but no one with form is the WHOLE of ONE or the WHOLE of ALL...

I like Plato, Plotinus, Vivekananda et al call ONE-ness of ALL by a number (not a word): ONE !!... And ONE has no "chosen" or "elite" which it calls: "deserving-ness"... That mystification of "humans" (from a self-titled "prefered" clan, a "chosen" by ego) is what cults and religions falsely use to build a following and a "congregation" ...

Lalaji had a form with very defined (human) borders, and so did Babuji and so did Jesus of Nazareth, and they do not "deserve" to be called ONE but are part of the Many OR part of the ONE-ness of ALL ...just like you and me, in my humble opinion ...

I do not elevate HUMANS to the level of GODS ... I don't build RELIGIONS !! Specially around such flawed humans ... who are causing such misery and divisions in their own families, society and in the world at large !!

Do not attempt to steal our love and honour, which belongs to "loved" ones (nation, clan, familty, lovers), and "adoration" which belongs only to ONE, by stealth and for "HUMANS" with "form", borders, limitations, smells, sound, etc ... etc ... !!

In the Judaeo-Christian Bible, the word for the CREATOR (God??) is Yahweh (meaning: IT that has no name, no form, no shape, etc ...)


Don...

4d-Don said...

Anonymous said...

Dear brother,Every one is right upto his level of understanding and awareness.That is, we are bound by limitation.To move beyond limitation , we attach our self with the Divine (Conscious ) so that our inner starts melting and we get more clarity of our 'GOAL' and our journey back to our Homeland proceeds.This is the understanding of your fellow traveller.

Affectionately ,
MVVRao

4d-Don said...

Hi MVVRao...

You say:

To move beyond limitation , we attach our self with the Divine (Conscious ) so that our inner starts melting and we get more clarity of our 'GOAL' and our journey back to our Homeland proceeds.


If one goes beyong limitation, that means beyond the limitation of the "GOAL" also, and into the the Divine, which is ETERNAL ... As Divine is ETERNAL, its so-called "goal" and hence "our" GOAL (if we merge with IT) is also ETERNAL or hence IS BEING achieved eternally (at all Times in all SPACES) and is never "un-realized" ... In SPIRIT or Spirituality, the Goal of humans, which dwells in TIME or in the mental illusion of the "infinity" (of religion), has also dis-appeared in the eternity of the Divinity which IS in ALL SPACE at ALL TIMES!!

Religion abides in "infinity" which is of MOTION and hence of the illusion of TIME (and has temporal goals and rewards and punishments); while ETERNAL (Divine, Spirit) is of SPACE and ALL TIME (or NO TIME) ... and simply IS Everything, Everywhere, and at ALL TIMES or "Everywhen" ...

Eternal has no goal ... In Spirit, the Journey IS the HOMELAND.

Eternal simply IS!! It does not improve or get worse.

I call this the E-Trinity.

Eternal has no beginning, and no end.

Infinite has a beginning but no end in both directions (past &future or plus + and minus -, (x=x+1, x=x-1) on both sides of the ZERO, equalling Zero or equalling "NOTHING" or "SOMETHING (ALL?)" which I call ONE-ness or ALL-ness (Nothing or Everything).

The Goal along with the human "limitation" has again dis-appeared at ZERO!!

Don ...

Anonymous said...

Dear brother,

Thank you for your nice elaboration of the Real .
I am neither a Post Graduate nor a Doctorate in Spirituality.
I am an ordinary human being in the process of learning(understanding) a,b,c,d......of Sahaj Marg founded by my beloved Babuji Maharaj .

Thank you once again,dear brother.

Affectionately,
MVVRao

4d-Don said...

Hi MVVRao...

About:

...our journey back to our Homeland proceeds.

As the Divine is "ETERNAL", there is not more Divinity in the past or in the future. There is not more "Eternal" or Divinity in the Homeland or inside CREATION, as EVERYWHERE IS the homeland ...

Hence, the JOURNEY is the HOMELAND.

So because as humans, we are limited by the effects of the arrow of TIME which goes from the past to the future... not from future to past) and we can't go "back" to our Homeland in the Universe of the past. If we merge with the "Eternal", We ARE IN our homeland without GOING anywhere but by BEING "everywhere" at the same TIME).

If they tell you that DIVINITY is on the mountain, don't go to the mountain to search for IT. If they tell you IT is in the valley, don't go to the valley to find it.

IT is Eternal AND is Everything, Everywhere, and Everywhen (E-Trinity)

Happy Journey into (inside) the ETERNAL!!

... or Welcome HOME!!

Don

4d-Don said...

Hi all ...


Received this as a "comment" to my translation of this article by Alexis posted on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg:

http://4d-don.blogspot.ca/2012/10/sahaj-margtm-membership-hoax-was.html


Garima Srivastava said...

The Sahaj Marg is a criminal gang led by Chari and Co. I know young boys and girls who have been hypnotised by this gang into believing that their parents are evil, that they are the 'chosen ones' who will save the world(From who may I know?!)and that they will attain salvation with unconditional obedience to the master. They have a criminal history of forgery, money laundering, sexual abuse of female relatives of abhyasis, persecution of homosexuals and AIDS Patients, promoting suicidal and narcissistic tendencies in abhyasis, as well as violence on and intimidation of dissenters...


Males and females with sadistic tendencies who are morally and emotionally weak naturally gravitate to this gang of criminals , so yes it is indeed the 'natural path' for natural fools...all big time chootiyas are in the service of this group of criminals. They think spirituality comes cheap and easy... God is insulted every moment by such criminals and their zombie followers who do not even remain capable of normal human reactions after becoming servants of these criminals...


The good news is that a panel of lawyers from the Supreme Court has already started digging out the criminal records of Chari and gang. Foreign governments and law enforcement authorities will be alerted and police will crack down on these criminal outfits masquerading as spiritual leaders...the bastards are ruining families all over the world...they will go to hell...


Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:30:00 AM

4d-Don said...

Hi Garima (Srivastava)...

Could you please explain why you feel the way you do with some "evidence" ...

As your commentary stands, it appears to be simply "defamation" with no evidence or (or proof) for your accusations ...

Could you give us some "specifics" ...

Example: You start with an accusation of "criminal gang led by Chari and Co." ... where is your evidence?? Are you simply repeating? Could you give the source of your information?? Is it simply "made up"??

Don

Anonymous said...

Are there support groups in the US for people who are not part of this Sahaj Yoga group but whose spouses are? Please identify the city. I wonder how the marriages between abhiyasis and non-abhiyasis due to cult like devotion of abhiyasis to Chariji.

Anonymous said...

Hi Don,
Guess what? New whispers coming ! Here we go again, fifth time around, fifth time untold millions will be raised by the religion!
Let me make a prediction. It will be more of the same, the occasional mention of genetic mutation of the superhuman race known as 'abhyasis', something about cosmonauts, something about not bothering The Lord and Saviour of the universe with your petty concerns, maybe a prediction about the end of the world, and 95% will be fluff pieces about how magical it is to love ( got to keep the middle aged women coming back ).
Whaddaya think?

Garima Srivastava said...

Hi Don,

I am acquainted with a family whose 34 year old son,"embraced spirituality" aka "Sahaj Marg", Chari brand a few years ago. This fellow is a manager with a leading multinational firm. I just wish to throw light on what "Sahaj Marg" has done to him considering that he attended premier educational institutions in India and abroad.
This fellow's family is unaware of his "spiritual" devotion to Sahaj Marg and in the absence of the same wonder why their son behaves strangely all the time. The "spiritual" son openly proclaims his disdain and contempt for the weaker, poorer sections of society and has even ended up being violent on some of them a couple of times because according to him, to his mind they are silly people and by this logic alone, he has assumed the right to hit them!
According to this Sahaj Margi, his "ascended masters" from the BRIGHTER WORLD (so bright that the abhyasis become blind!! lol) transmit him "messages from above"!! They have asked him to "connect to the source" (while the masters of SM "connect to the resources" flowing from all parts of the world, again lol). This man calls his parents "puppies" as he did before me (as he has been brainwashed to believe that parents are evil, wow!!), talks in an auto-centric language (he believes he is GOD), is socially withdrawn, does not take meals, and shows all the symptoms of acute narcissistic/schizoid personality disorders. These disorders usually afflict people with very low self-esteem and naturally a bogus spiritual organisation like Sahaj Marg appeals to such a diseased mind. They tell such assholes that they are the "chosen ones" (their only chance at glory)who will go to the heavens (the sooner the better)...When I told this fellow that real men (since he has muscles) hit people more powerful than them and that owing to his behaviour I thought that he was "mentally disturbed", he immediately took a U turn because it caused him acute embarassment that that was how he was perceived among his neighbours. He tried his best to manipulate the situation by telling me that he was just joking about spirituality. At Sahaj Marg, the victims are brainwashed with a very limited vocabulary. While preaching his SM philosophy to me, he used the word "connect" a bit too often. After the U turn for a few days, he returned to his SM ways. He told me that he was not against marriage but he will marry a woman with whom he can "connect" . There it was. I caught him. When I confronted him with his lies he said that he felt like committing suicide!! Obviously, because he had failed to manipulate me and was feeling humiliated. A man is known by the company he keeps and obviously the only company this man keeps is that of Sahaj Marg and Sahaj Margis and the effects ate visible on him...he did not even the courage to own up to his association with Sahaj Marg, and I am not surprised.

Garima Srivastava said...

As for providing "evidence" Mr. Don, I work for a law enforcement authority and am associated with a leading organisation that works on mental health issues. Please pick up any work by Dr. Arthur Diekman, Psychiatrist at the Harvard Medical School. He has researched intensively on cult psychology and has concluded how brainwashing is effectuated on men, women and children. It is the morally and emotionally weak persons who gravitate towards cults such as Sahaj Marg. If you need hard-hitting evidence, please get in touch with the EUROPOL at Hague (EUROPEAN POLICE) that has placed Sahaj marg centres all over Europe under its surveillance after receiving Government Reports from France, Spain, Belgium and Netherlands that list Sahaj Marg as a "harmful sect" engaged in dubious activities. There are psychiatrists down South India treating "spiritual" patients from Sahaj Marg for hypnosis, hallucinations, depression, personality disorders, and suicidal tendencies. They have noted that these "abhyasis" were marked by "Zombie-like" behavior, that is they were incapable of any normal human reactions.
As far as Rev. Master Chari is concerned, well, there are a host of court cases against him on charges of violence on dissenters and abhyasis who wished to be freed from his clutches, forgery, land grabbing, sexual abuse of female relatives of brain-dead abhyasis, and on and on (see the Report in THE PIONEER, Dec. 2001). I don't need to repeat here the list of criminal charges against Chari ji. My friend and fellow blogger has already done a wonderful job of exposing these frauds who are in reality "real estate developers". It is just a matter of time when these "ascended souls" will be where they deserve to be: HELL...All thanks to the curses of those families who have suffered and are suffering, thanks to Sahaj Marg...
You must understand that prima facie evidence is enough to make allegations such as the ones made by me. I do not need to cite court cases here when a matter is sub-judice.
And by the way, any crook and criminal outfit cannot file a defamation suit.

4d-Don said...

Hi Anonymous...

"Sahaja Yoga" is a different group and is not affiliated with "Sahaj Marg" and Chari, their (ex-CEO of TTK Groups of India) Master, President and Guru ...

I don't know if there are any "support Groups" for victims of Sahaj Marg...

Don...

4d-Don said...

Hi Anonymous (about the New Whispers)

You got THAT right ... Much like all religions eh? Nothing "unique" or SPECIAL in Sahaj Marg!!

Imagine there's no RELIGION and in the future, one has to look in the Library sections on "fiction" or "fantasy" or MYTH (or maybe "hoax" or "confidence schemes" (cons from "con-men") to find a book with any reference to Religion or Spiritualism!!

Making "PRE" dictions (Whispers?) is their attempt to be "scientific" and "commercial"... And their pseudo "miracles" (Whispers??) is their attempt to go beyond the SCIENTIFIC Method and claim to use the "Quantuum" theory to explain their unique or SPECIAL "super-naturalism" ... The self-titled CHOSEN!!

The SUPERNATURAL is not "natural" at all ... it is a CON !!

Don...

Anonymous said...

Hi,
About those looking for a help group, for spouses or otherwise. Funny, I was thinking there ought to be such an organization here in the US today. For those seeking help, try contacting some of the people involved in this site, such as Michael who was very helpful to me. I'm sure there are others that would be willing to swap emails and at least give you the opportunity to be understood. Don, perhaps this is something that you would be interested in? Maybe having a list of emails of people who are willing to help. I for one would be willing to join, I have ten years plus experience in this group

Garima Srivastava said...

Hi Anonymous,

I am from India and am wondering what impels men and women from all over the world to join groups like Sahaj Marg. My previous comments on this blog are rather disparaging towards people who joined/are joining SM but I realize that the most vulnerable group is the educated class of people. Their quest for spirituality and willingness to go to any lengths in its pursuit is exploited by men like Chari who has established a "spiritual empire". The funniest and perhaps the most dangerous aspect of Sahaj Marg is that they rally the teachings of Swami Vivekananda to perpetrate "spiritual terror" on abhyasis just as terrorists perpetrate terror in the name of Islam. Our beloved Swami Vivekananda has been misappropriated by a group of frauds to lend legitimacy to their "spiritual discourses" which end up in abyasis falling mentally ill. Vivekananda abhorred the very idea of running an organization with a set of followers. His philosophy was very simple and yet very profound. He said that even if a single living creature on the face of this earth went hungry, be it a human being or a dog, he would hold the rest to be traitors. According to him the biggest sin that a man could commit was to teach religion to hungry people. I am in my late 20s only and not equipped with as much experience as Don, Michael or you but from my own experience of life I have come to believe that wisdom has nothing much to do with the number of days one has lived. Vivekanada was only 39 when he passed away and left behind an eternal legacy which remains to be inherited the right way. I don't think sitting in a meditation room and learning meditation, the so-called Rajyoga meditation and listening to whispers from the "other world" and tapping the potential of our sub conscious minds makes us spiritual in any way.Vivekananda was famous for turning away people who came to him seeking his guidance on spirituality. He would simply tell them to go and feed the hungry, protect and save people from all kinds of oppression first and then come to learn meditation techniques.
Chari and co., at least here in India target men and women who feel that serving the poor is an act of charity and and not a "spiritual" act. Unless and until these jackasses sit in a posh meditation centre with a "spiritual guru" who tells them that they are "special" (only because they came to him), theses abhyasis don't feel "spiritual" enough! I am fully aware that hypnosis and brainwashing and fear psychosis make it almost impossible for these abhyasis to wriggle out of SM but I feel it's high time you guys seek medical help first for these abhyasis. If you want freedom from Chari and Co. please throw Vivekananda in their faces and question their credentials openly.

4d-Don said...

Hi Garima Srivastava...

Good for you ... good comment!

I already wrote something on this blog about Vivekananda...

see:

http://4d-don.blogspot.ca/2011/04/sahaj-margtm-and-swami-vivekananda-1893.html

Thanks for the comment...

Don..

4d-Don said...

Hi anonymous...

Most people don't want to give their e-mail... and most prefer to remain anonymous on-line ... (for obvious reasons)...

Michael has a blog but does not respond to comments any more ...
Frank (ex-preceptor and Zonal in Charge for the Netherlands) still replies to comments on his blog: the Pitfalls of Spirituality.


I welcome all to come her and discuss or share their thoughts about Sahaj Marg and Shri Ram Chandra Mission (California-1997)...

If anyone wants to make their e-mail available, I can make it available to WHOEVER ASKS for it!!! I will not filter or check the requests ...

...but I don't know how else I (or anyone else) can help ...

It's a matter of FREEDOM OF CHOICE ... all are free to join or leave this or any group ... we (I) can only give a "Heads up"!!! I am not trying to destroy religion and cults but I am trying to warn about Sahaj Marg and it's new "spiritualism" which is really, the cult of three persons (and counting) ... Lalaji, Babuji, Chari and Kasturi etc... etc..


Thanks for your comment ...

Don ...

Garima Srivastava said...

Hi Don,

Thank you for appreciating my comments. Garima Srivastava is my real name and as a lawyer I would appeal to all, through your forum to testify against Sahaj Marg. I want to liberate one and all from the clutches of these psychopaths. I am a follower of Vivekananda, the fearless lion who has guided me in all my endeavors. Please mail me at :advocategarima@gmail.com.

I am not scared of a gang of criminals masquerading as spiritualists. Fear is death-that's what my beloved guru said but I understand that ex-abhyasis and others others associated with SM would like to remain anonymous. Trust me, I won't reveal any identities. Please help me.

Thanks...
Garima.

Anonymous said...

Blah...blah..blah..blah..thank you for your pure intellectual bull-shit...

4d-Don said...

Hey you, navel gazer of little spirituality ...

Spiritualism is not Spirituality!!

If you were truly spiritual, you would re-act differently ...

You are truly exposing yourself and your group ... Materialists and "SPIRITUALISTS" but not very spiritual ...

Maybe you should look at, and experience the local "spirituality" and learn something ...

Stop looking to Hollywood or HUMANS for your "religion" ... You are not fooling anyone with an ounce of BRAIN!! You just gather those like you!!

Seriously !! A Medium with messages from the "other World", which you call: BRIGHTER?? LOL LOL LOL



ONE is here and all around you!!
Relate to IT!!

Don ...

Garima Srivastava said...

Hi Don and all the anonymous "bravehearts",

Vivekananda said:" God does not make himself manifest to cowards"; for the devout followers of babu ji's, lala ji's and chari ji's of the world learning a,b,c,d of Sahaj Marg, Vivekananda said, "Sects are for children...Enter not the door of any organized sect/religion, for salvation is only between you and your God, and no third person must come between you...You have to grow from the inside out. None can teach you, none can make you spiritual. There is no teacher but your soul"; "There are great dangers in regard to the transmitter, the guru for the world is full of those, who, though steeped in ignorance and vice, offer to lead others into the ditch..."
Raja yoga meditation was popularised by Swami Vivekananda and not Sahaj Marg or Sahaj Margis. In fact, Sahaj Marg has marketed raja yoga meditation like a cheap commodity. The truth is that Raja Yoga meditation is quite a daunting path to meditation and before an individual can embark upon it, he/she has to satisfy the requirements of Karma Yoga, Gyan Yoga and Bhakti yoga. You may refer to Swami Ji's "Vedanta: the voice of freedom".
Raja yoga meditation practised without meeting the aforementioned requirements becomes the "super"natural (as opposed to natural) path to salvation and leads to depression, psychosis, identity confusion and suicidal impulses in the practitioner.
Vivekananda was original and brave and for the same reason he was not a member of a herd/cult/sect. The funds that he raised were used to feed the poor and the hungry and not to celebrate his birthday like the lala jis and chari jis of the world! He was a lion, not a pig who herd up in groups...For the same reason, India's spiritual tradition is synonymous with Vivekananda and not the lalajis, babu jis and charijis and their tamed slavish pigs!!!


Garima Srivastava said...

Hi Don,

I completely agree with you.

Those receiving "messages from the other world" are the ones who have started hallucinating. In medical terms, this condition is called "autosuggestion" and is born of a very weak, in fact debilitated mind. In fact, cult recruiters look out for such people with low self esteem and tell them that they are the "chosen ones". That is enough to inflate their fragile egos and meet their needs for approval and validation. This is how they manipulate them into submission and command absolute obedience and loyalty from them.
The funniest part is that all the pigs gather in a group and each feels like a lion or at least like one in the making...Lol!!

Thanks...

4d-Don said...

Hi all...

"Anonymous" (above) and others of his ilk or calling, agree to suspend the function of their ONE-given organs, such as the BRAIN and it's intellect, or the "GUT" (with its "gut feelings"), or the throat (the sound box), and its transmission of the "word" (Sound), but rely instead solely on their heart, then maybe they should not repeat the same word over and over and use the "emotional" gross insulting of others with grunts and "blah's" ...just to show the rest of us the "brightness" of their "Brighter World" or the Centrality of its "Central Region"...

At least insult us "properly" with "finesse" and "intellect" ... Not with "blah's" and grunts. Show us up to be wrong!!

Emotions are for children ... or some adults in their "un-enlightened" past ... But most well brought-up children don't use grunts anymore also. They are taught to use their "heads". Intellect is for adults who want to be BRIGHT NOW !!

It appears that intellect is more lofty, and an indication of our humanity and the civilization of our species, than the "emotional" responses which seem to come from those who use the heart without any understanding or control ... the so-called "spiritual" adepts of Sahaj Marg, who are really "spiritualists" with anonymous French lady Mediums and messages from the spirits of the dead and "beings of light" ... Show the light... Let it shine!!

And then, learn that the whole body transmits its light (EM including heat) all aroound its self.

We can use all of those "physical" attributes ... they are gifts to us from ONE and All ...

Anonymous should show control by not repeating the same (one) word over and over again, so as to make "sense" or be understood, AND show his true HUMAN or his conscious-ness elevation (level) ...

He should know that we are all ONE!! And All should make sense with themselves, make sense with the ONE within ...

Don...