Monday, October 01, 2012

Sahaj Marg(tm) Membership... The Hoax was Colossal!

Taken and translated from an article by Alexis: "Effectifs...L'intox était Colossale"  on Élodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.


4d-Don's Comment:  Could we be witnessing the dis-integration or the "break-up" of SRCM (California-1997), into "240 pieces" as Chari's nightmare warned about just a few short years ago?  Maybe most "objectors of conscience" simply leave and don't look for other "factions" of Sahaj Marg to fit into.  The trade-marking of Sahaj Marg(tm) by Chari, has made it difficult, if not impossible,  for dissenters to form their own "group" and call Babuji's (un-trade-marked) system by the name he called it and registered in his 1945 Constitution and By-Laws.  

It seems that if one believes these numbers,  telling the truth about the membership numbers of spiritualist SRCM(California-1997)  is not part of "finding" the TRUTH of spirituality!  Where are the "standards of Spiritualism" mentionned in the Constitution and Bye-Laws of Chari's SRCM (California-1997)



October 1, 2012  

Sahaj Marg(tm) Membership: the Hoax was Colossal! 
 

While some were putting forward the membership numbers from 500 to 600 000 abhyasis, the German SRCM (Shri Ram Chandra Mission- California-1997)  announced 200,000 followers in India, including 25,000 from elsewhere, of which 3,500 were from Europe and in 2007, it (SRCM-California-1997)  had a presence in over 90 countries. 

More recently, on November 25, 2011, before the Arbitration Commission for Indian web, SRCM said it had 150,000 registered members, 3,014 preceptors, about a thousand meditation centers in India and 102 abroad, and about 200 ashrams in India and 13 abroad. 


According to the latest information on the Meditation Centre in Chennai
(one of the largest Indian centers) with nearly 7% of the Indian preceptors, there would be 38-39 contributors (paid up members) per preceptor, but regular practitioners would not  constitute more than 29% of them.  Finally, according to Ajay Kumar Bhatter, it takes three new introductions to Sahaj Marg to hold one contributor.  

Extrapolating to the whole of India, it would therefore give 11 practitioners per preceptor, 39 contributors and 115 persons if one adds supporters.

On the outside (of India)  it is clearer, we observe an average of 9 practitioners per preceptor, 12 contributors and 15 people if we add the supporters. 


In 2007 with 2,377 preceptors in the world, we therefore get the following results: - 24,000 regular participants in Sunday satsang - 65,000 contributors to the national association - 175,000 people who are supporters but who have not continued the practice after their introduction.


It is far, very far, from 200 to 300,000 abhyasis commonly cited.  


The strategy of intoxification (hoax)  worked well, I was myself taken in for a long time, at least in part ... 

Alexis
 


For more information [on the website of Alexis]  

- Abhyasis practitioners, contributors and supporters 
- The Multinational Sahaj margTM  


Coming soon [on the website of Alexis]  

- Kamlesh, a Plenipotentiary Vice-President

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9 comments:

4d-Don said...

Taken and translated from a comment by Alexis: "cela n'a rien a voire", on Elodie's blog in Europe: "Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg"

Blogger Alexis said ...

This has nothing to do with anything...

Ashram Projects: Where are they in Canada and Australia?

SRCM Oceania has always dreamed of having an ashram. Chari has obviously decided something else. The first land was purchased in Armadale, near Perth, Australia in 2000. Chari makes them sell it in 2003. The he changes his "game hand" in 2011, and the abhyasis buy a new lot in Bringelly, near Sydney. Chari makes them sell that in 2012 ...


Canadians also want their ashram. Kamlesh encouraged them to raise funds. Remember:



“if 1,000 abhyasis each contributed $20 per month, that would be $20,000 per month and in a year we would have $240,000 – had we started five years ago we would be in a position now to acquire a property!”

That is therefore $ 1,200,000.


The accounting (to Canada Revenue Agency) in 2011 shows new additional donations to acquire this ashram of nearly $21,000 Canadian (€ 27,000) and an annual profit of nearly $ 43,000 (€ 54,000). If the abhyasis were a thousand (according to Kamlesh), that would be $ 43 profit per year per abhyasi. This is far from the $ 240 claimed by Patel, 18% of what he asks of them! That is to say, not an ashram in 5 years, but in 28 years ...

Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Anonymous said...

They have lied for a long time about the numbers...probably one of the first clues to followers that something is not right in this group...well, we overlook a lot of things when we are searching for something more meaningful than what IS or when we are working to become instead of just BEING.
And as far as ashrams...there really is something rotten in Denmark!

--Triple Gem

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4d-Don said...

Hi Triple Gem...

Yes, I thought their numbers (in Canada) were more "wishfull) than REALITY... If they can't even face REALITY in their own membership, and their "dollars" (NUMBERS), can they face REALITY in the intangibles, or what can be described with in-accurate or subjective "WORDS"??

NOT!!

Since Shakespeare's time (and probably before), the intrigues in Denmark's elite (the upper crust of Church, Intelligentia, Petit Bourgeois, and State) society have been a concern to its neighbours and a source of literary material to many European writers (not to mention their scientific achievements (also "material", ie Atomic or Quantum theory, etc...) ...

That we see the "rot" inherently manifested in Sahaj Marg(tm) and SRCM, who's European Headquarters were moved from France to Denmark because of the non-acceptance or the outright rejection by the French (government, Media, and citizenry) of the "cult" aspects of Sahaj Marg (i.e. Cult of a Person), is not very surprising.

As far as SRCM (California-1997), and Chari pointing his finger in his speeches in Denmark, at Europeans (or the West), as the source of all materialism, and/or deviancy, I can only quote the great bard, Shakespeare:

"Methinks they doth protest too much."

Thanks for the comment...

Don

Garima Srivastava said...

The Sahaj Marg is a criminal gang led by Chari and Co. I know young boys and girls who have been hypnotised by this gang into believing that their parents are evil, that they are the 'chosen ones' who will save the world(From who may I know?!)and that they will attain salvation with unconditional obedience to the master. They have a criminal history of forgery, money laundering, sexual abuse of female relatives of abhyasis, persecution of homosexuals and AIDS Patients, promoting suicidal and narcissistic tendencies in abhyasis, as well as violence on and intimidation of dissenters...
Males and females with sadistic tendencies who are morally and emotionally weak naturally gravitate to this gang of criminals , so yes it is indeed the 'natural path' for natural fools...all big time chootiyas are in the service of this group of criminals. They think spirituality comes cheap and easy... God is insulted every moment by such criminals and their zombie followers who do not even remain capable of normal human reactions after becoming servants of these criminals...
The good news is that a panel of lawyers from the Supreme Court has already started digging out the criminal records of Chari and gang. Foreign governments and law enforcement authorities will be alerted and police will crack down on these criminal outfits masquerading as spiritual leaders...the bastards are ruining families all over the world...they will go to hell...

4d-Don said...

Hi Garima (Srivastava)...

Could you please explain why you feel the way you do with some "evidence" ...

As your commentary stands, it appears to be simply "defamation" with no evidence or (or proof) for your accusations ...

Could you give us some "specifics" ...

Example: You start with an accusation of "criminal gang led by Chari and Co." ... where is your evidence?? Are you simply repeating? Could you give the source of your information?? Is it simply "made up"??

Don

Solvejg Sharma said...

Don, I am so disappointed in you. I had expected more from you. Life took me in a different direction in 1984, but until then I have only good to say about Babuji Maharaj and Chariji. What on Earth has gotten into you? By the help of the Pranahuti you must definitely have benefited, so why don't you get yourself together and be honest about your benefits instead of this crap you ar heading :(

4d-Don said...

Hi Solvejg Sharma...

This now being now a somewhat FREE world, you, (or anyone else) can freely be "so disappointed" to your/their heart's content (I don't know you and you don't know me).

You can also "expect more" all you want ... (I owe you nothing and you owe me nothing).

And you can say all you desire about Babuji and Chari ... but you can't (at least not with a straight face) tell me and the readers that Babuji (and/or Chari's wife and mother, and Lalaji, etc... including some un-named "beings of light" and "elevated souls" ) are actually and "in REALITY" sending daily "spiritualist" messages from the "Brighter World" to an "anonymous French lady Medium" ...

You will get some "opposition" on that "SCAM" attempt ... (And of course, the "salesmen" will add: "Guaranteed" and "all Natrual" but we, the massed, are now "educated" and we don't believe these invented "tales" of the "chosen" and the "elite" ... Legends don't sell to the truly REALITY-seeking "spiritual" set ... it does sell to fiction/fantasy-seekers, the legends-influenced, and/or the "Hollywood/Bollywood" addicts to emotionalism and drama ... or to "stories", not REALITY!!

So Get REAL!!

Spiritualism is a SCAM ... tell the truth now!! We are all adults and most of us don't believe in Santa Clause and fairies anymore ... (in the parlance of the "States" of America... "We are from Missouri"... (In other words: "You can't fool us")

So while we, the truly "SPIRITUAL" people (not the self-styled) "spiritualists" of Sahaj Marg) are ONE, you and your "elite", on the other hand, the so-called "spiritualists", are "divided" among your various selves ... Count the many divided religions and cults of personality such as Sahaj Marg and see that even Babuji would not belong to this group of spiritualist, materialist businessmen ... It is not what Raja Yoga, the eightfold (8) path of Patanjali, states even if one just begins at step 7 of the traditional 8 steps of Raja Yoga ...

4d-Don said...

And Lalaji has nothing to do with Sahaj Marg ... Lalaji died in 1931 ... Babuji started his Sahaj Marg in 1945. Sister Kasturi stated this and so did Lalaji's grandson (Dinesh), on their site ... See also the Sufi site of Dr. RK GUPTAL: "Sufi Saints and Sufism"

No Babuji or Chari listed in their "lineage" of the Naqshbandiya Sufi Brotherhood or the NaqshMuMRa Sufi Stream.

As usual, you (and your ilk) bring up veiled emotionalism, and say nothing specific ... so go on your way and find your "togetherness" with the ALL of the REAL Spiritual ONE-ness ... not with just a few "cult" followers of your little stagnating (and divided) "sect" ...

Go in Peace ... and put your HOPE and FAITH in the ALL or the ONE-ness or NOTHING-ness (ZERO)!! and not in temporal (time-bound) idols of clay (i.e. HUMANS).

Don ...

P.S. I "head" nothing ... I expose the very materialist scam of "spiritualism", wherever they are. They are usually dressed as (and claim to be) "spirituality" ...(of course).

(But SRCM (California-1997) claims in its Constitution and By-Laws to adhere to "standards of Spiritualism"... (see: "Sahaj Marg and SRCm Important and Legal Documents")

You can then say that I am a "spiritualist buster" .... "spiritualists" believe in "spirits" or "ghosts" ... (lol lol)

Look at the definition of "Spirituality" on WIKIpedia.

Then look at "spiritualism"... Sahaj Marg has become: SPIRITUALISM ...

Alexis and Elodie (and even Christian?) all had a "blog" on Sahaj Marg before I had one, and many others members (including some preceptors, and even one "CIC" or Country-In-Charge. i.e. "The Pitfalls of Spirituality", by Frank) also have a blog (still on line)...

You can find the links to all the other blogs on Sahaj Marg at the first page of my site ... (right here) ...

I sometimes translate some of the "French" material!!

Thanks for the comment....